Chris Neary
Chris Neary is a producer for On the Media.
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Last week, we ran a piece about bleeping out obscenities on TV. We didn't have time to include the perspective of an OTM staff member who has extensive experience in removing obscenties from radio songs. So, at the risk of pulling back the curtain too much here at OTM, I'd like to introduce Jen Munson (the show's technical director) to the blog. Jen mixes individual segments of the show as well as mixing the final product. What is mixing, exactly? It's complicated, but I like to think of the difference between a mixed show and an unmixed show as the difference between the food you make at home and the food you get in a (good) restaurant. The two meals might have the same ingredients -- but it just somehow tastes better at the restaurant. Jen makes our show restaurant quality.
But long before she took to improving public radio shows she worked in the music business. Jen used to take obscenities out of pop songs. She was, in fact, a pre-eminent de-f**kalizer. I talked with Jen about how she got into that line of work.
Jen Munson: I started out in the music industry in classical music as an engineer. In classical music you're using hundreds of little takes and you're editing together an entire piece of music from someone playing it over and over again. What you hear in classical music recordings is usually not one solid performance. It's taken from many, many takes and retakes. And that skill came in very handy when I started creating 'clean' radio versions of songs. I knew how to take out a small piece of a song.
Chris Neary: When did people start to recognize your skills in de-fu**alizing?
JM: I started to get a reputation as being a really good editor. Pop songs are so, so much easier to edit than classical music. So people would start sending me songs to take curses out of. There are lots of different ways of fixing curses. It can be really creative and fun.
CN: So let's say the word shit is in a song. How would you get rid of it?
drum crash.
CN: It's interesting, because the artist could do a version of the song where they didn't curse -- but they'd rather have the edit in the final product. They want to have a nod that there is cursing in the song.
JM: Well I did a radio edit for Lou Reed...
CN: Woah.
JM: The title of the song was 'Sex With Your Parents (Motherf**ker)' And every time he said "motherf**ker" he wanted use a long solid bleep. Not trying to disguise it at all -- because he was really offended at being censored. Unlike most people he wanted to call attention to the fact that he was being censored.
CN: Who else have you worked with?
JM: A lot of rap artists. Busta Rhymes. He's really, really fast -- so you just have to make a really small change to hide it. That was a lot of just flipping the word around with that. Some people wanted to throw in sound effects - there's like a car crashes or record scratches you can use. Some artists are nice and just come up with alternate lyrics you just need to put in.
CN: Who else have you worked with?
JM: Alicia Keys. And Missy Elliott. (Check out Jen's handiwork making this Missy Elliott song ((more)) family friendly).
CN: So you started to developed a reputation, right?
CN: You're no longer a pre-eminent de-f**kalizer. Do you miss it?
JM: Not really. To this day, even with a small child, I have a really bad potty-mouth. When I was working in the classical industry, I did not curse this much. I have offended lots of people, so it's still just part of my core.
Comments [7]
Back in 1966, as a young teen I bought what turned out to be the unedited version of Lou Christie's "Rhapsody in the Rain."
Only when I heard the radio version did I realize that the lyrics I first heard as "we were makin' out" and "our love went much too far" had been
changed to "we fell in love" and "our love came like a falling star."
The disclaimer on Chris Neary's Q-A with Jen Munson reminds me of the disingenuous disclaimers we hear on network news preceding content similar that which Munson has been charged with excising. The aim is just the opposite of the expressed intention.
Ratings, like page views, are not obtained with pablum.
What is considered suggestive, and the reaction to it, has changed over time but I never want to be desensitized to vulgarity.
Why can't we just express ourselves in our speech and writing with a creativity, civility and respect for our audience that requires neither the use of expletives nor the resorting to asterisks that hardly masks profanity that, having long since lost its shock value, conveys that which is even more troubling: anger and disrespect?
Stacy Harris
Publisher/Executive Editor/Media Critic
Stacy's Music Row Report
http://stacyharris.com
We always knew you'd be famous. :D
Dad and I are so proud of our talented, def-kalizer daughter. (Don't know if being exposed to 'rustic' language at a young age had anything to do with your talent...)
Another minor comment - it's not "techinical director," it's "technical director."
Love the idea of a def**kalizer - fix sh*t up! - and love OTM.
(What irony - I'm not allowed to post with the swear words on this story!)
A f**cking pioneer, you are.
"She was, in fact, a pre-eminent de-fuc₭alizer."
Although you def**ked most of the f**ks, that f**ker's still f**king f**ked.
All the best,
-- MrJM
Minor correction - "Buster Rhymes" was a football player. "Busta Rhymes" is the rapper.
Jen, we music fans appreciate your excellent f**king work.
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