He Said, She Said

Friday, October 03, 2008

Transcript

It was billed as nothing less than an epic battle - Palin v. Biden. Expectations were raised and lowered, gaffes and non-answers were played and replayed, moderators were accused of bias. But according to Mark Jurkowitz, associate director of the Pew Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism, the real winner isn’t so much a presidential ticket as cable news itself.

Comments [8]

John Q. Public

Posted by: Jack October 07, 2008 - 03:54PM
Chicago
When is the media going to evaluate Obama's fitness as a President?

It looks as though the answer to that question is "never." You'd think that with the media cheerleading for Obama, he'd at least be 20 points ahead in the polls.

Oct. 14 2008 01:08 PM
Chris Gray from New Haven, CT

Sorry, Jack, it has kind of become anyone but Erratic McMaverick.

As to the tactic of sexualizing Palin, I was clearly meant to notice it when she showed up at an event this week with a white blouse which clearly evidenced one aspect of her utilization of her anatomy that Tina Fey has yet to thoroughly mine, though she did give it a nod once.

Since she's so fond of the phrase, "Palin' around with a domestic...", here's a slogan Sarah's Palin' With Lame McCain.

Meanwhile, the public is vetting Obama. The press, especially cable news, is as irrelevant as they were in the first O.J. trial.

Thank goodness for two wars, a Presidential election, and a world-wide financial nightmare or we would have been subjected to trial number two until we became as sick of it as we are of all the hysterical lies spewing out of our television screens from the various candidates for public office right now.

Oct. 08 2008 03:42 AM
Jack from Chicago

Incredibly comical in your opinion. Sophmoric editing in mine.

When is the media going to evaluate Obama's fitness as a President?

Oct. 07 2008 03:54 PM
fifth estate from west coast

From a new media standpoint, the YouTube video "Bridge To No Underwear" provides a hilarious reworking of the debate footage, highlighting Palin's excessive use of innuendo and gestures. Under the direction of the McCain campaign, Palin is intentionally "flirting" with the American public to distract them from her non-answers to the very real issues. Given that the campaign has cried "sexism" whenever a media outlet decides to evaluate her fitness as a VP candidate, I thought this video illustrates how they've gone out of their way to sexualize her. While the edit clearly takes bites out of context and there are few moments of syllabic manipulation, the fact is that she is the one who created a rich library of "nuanced" reactions and sexual innuendo-laden folksy bites available for all to be sequenced for an incredibly comical narrative impact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPE6_jGBlDc

Who would have know the debate was really about McCain and Palin's incredibly physical relationship: 94 times in 5 weeks?!!! Enjoy!!

Oct. 07 2008 04:25 AM
Toby

Why haven't you looked into how these "debates" aren't proper debates, but instead just a bit of political Kabuki theatre where sound bytes and talking points are regurgitated.

Most American politicians would wind up looking like idiots if they engaged in a proper debate or something as simple as Prime Minister's question time as done in the UK or Canada.

The current "debates" are just easy to televise non-events that get over analyzed by the political pundits on cable news who blather on about nothing all over as something as fake as a reality TV show.

Oct. 06 2008 08:08 PM
Michael S. Cullen from Berlin, Germany

As an American in Berlin, born in the Bronx and raised in Brooklyn, (('ll be voting via absentee ballot in Nassau County, NY) I have come to depend on OTM to understand the media at home - I catch it here in Berlin every Sunday AM at 9.00). I also get information online from various newspapers online, Real Clear Facts (with all the links to other editorials) and Princeton Election Consortium.
NPR's and OTM's main "competitor" is the BBC, which is turning into a "he said, she said" network. This AM Palin's attack on Obama/Ayres was broadcast as "new" and no attempt was made to refute it. Also: the BBC repeated the new McCain ad claiming "Obama voted 94 times to increase taxes" without comment or refutation.
NPR's Michel Martin allowed a Palin-devotee to claim that Palin is "honest", without referring to her lies about the "bridge to nowhere", and about refusing "pork" while simultaneously applying for it.
Please keep up the good work, and: please don't cease using sarcasm and irony as weapons, thoroughly enjoyable and informative.
Very sincerely yours,
Michael S. Cullen
Berlin, Germany

Oct. 05 2008 05:56 AM
andrew hennessy from college park, md

On Aug 13, 2008 Andrew Kohut was on NPR: (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93575211).

In his study the margin or error is +-3, and 46% are for Obama while 43% are for McCain.

He says the results are within the margin or error, so McCain and Obama are essentially in a dead heat.

However, Kohut says that Republican support for McCain has gone up from 82% to 87% percent. He also says only 83% of Democrats say they will vote for Obama.

"Obama has not brought more people to his side while McCain has been able to achieve this" (Kohut), but he ignores his margin of error in order to make that statement. 87% +-3= 84% to 91%, and 83% +- 3 = 86% to 91%. The confidence intervals cross: there is nothing to report.

What does he mean by "not brought more people?" He is talking about percentages, but the number of Democrats and Republicans in the population is not equal?

Kohut says the results are "quite different" than June 2008 when 48% were for Obama and 40% were for McCain. Today (Aug 13, 2008) it is 46% for Obama 43% for McCain. The confidence intervals on the time-series cross. The change is not statistically significant. There actually anything to report in this poll. Statistically nothing has changed.

Oct. 03 2008 10:44 PM
Phillip from Silver Spring, MD

"It was billed as nothing less then..." (sic)

Your spelling is wrong...you meant "less than."

Oct. 03 2008 07:11 PM

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