The Leak at WikiLeaks

Friday, September 02, 2011

This week WikiLeaks released the largest number of US diplomatic cables to date, but the release has been overshadowed by an unredacted leak of its entire cache of cables. Bob talks to Atlantic Wire writer Adam Clark Estes about who's blaming who for the leak at WikiLeaks and what this could mean for WikiLeaks in the future.

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Comments [5]

Chris Gray from New Haven, CT

Your timing this time is impeccable! PBS Newshour seems to have been moved to cover this, now, perhaps by you. One comment by their expert in the coverage sticks, though. "This was inevitable."

Sep. 07 2011 12:06 AM
Philip Prindeville from Portland, OR

"Well intentioned" but "disorganized"?

Who knew that Wikileaks represented such a Bermuda Triangle for the moral compass of liberal journalists at OTM. Ok, everyone did. And it's shameful.

To be clear, a "whistleblower" takes a small number of clear-cut and egregious abuses and holds them up to the light of day and public scrutiny.

By no stretch of the imagination did Wikileaks and Pvt. Manning do this!

They took hundreds of thousands of documents and exposed them scattershot on the hopes that a few of them might (emphasis on "might") happen to be embarrassing to the government.

This is not "whistleblowing".

To put this into the liberal moral frame of reference so that you all might better relate, if the government kicked in 400,000 doors on the hopes of finding a handful of mild violations of the law, that would not be considered "well intentioned but disorganized".

That would be an intolerable and oppressive fascist totalitarian state.

It would be an abuse of monumental proportion.

Why? Because the government can't start with an assumption of guilt or malfeasance and then go looking for evidence to confirm this ex post facto.

Yet this is exactly what Assange did.

There was no blatant violation known to him explicitly that he was trying to expose.

He's as much of a thug as any jackbooted interloper that goes around kicking in doors hoping to find something interesting.

He just happens to be a cyber criminal and not a government agent.

The victim here wasn't the government, but the citizenry which it is charged to protect.

It boggles me that OTM can expend such effort in moral contortions trying to commute any legitimacy to such criminal behavior.

Sep. 06 2011 03:07 AM
Jo-Ann Taylor

Adam Clark Estes is either very ignorant or very corrupt. His characterization of Wikileaks fallout with the Guardian and The New York Times ignores the fact that both newspapers absolutely slimed Assange's character while they were his supposed "partners". Shame on NPR!

Sep. 05 2011 11:25 PM
Hugh Sansom

Another note: Why no comment on the absolute media silence on the recent Wikileaks release including conclusive proof of American war crimes — crimes expressly denied by the US military (which denial was, as usual, accepted without question or even a raised eyebrow by The New York Times, NPR, etc.)?

Sep. 03 2011 07:43 AM
Hugh Sansom from Brooklyn

Has Adam Clark Estes followed the news in the past 10 years? . . . Why would Wikileaks 'turn on' The Guardian or The New York Times? Perhaps because they remember the behavior of Bill Keller and John F. Burns or their counterparts at The Guardian. Burns and Keller excoriated Wikileaks exactly as they were profiting from the material they got via the group. Keller and Burns later scrambled to cover their tails when the importance of the Wikileaks material became clear.

And isn't Adam Clark Estes's impartiality tainted by his employment by The Atlantic, which has a record as bad as The Times on the Iraq war and US government crimes in the past 10 years.

I'm also curious about this notion of 'real journalism'. Do Estes and On the Media have in mind the standards of journalism of Judith Miller and Michael Gordon? Maybe Fox.

Again and again, I get the overwhelming impression what real bugs The Times or The Atlantic is their loss of status as The Gatekeepers of Public Knowledge.

Wikileaks and others didn't seize that from the old-school 'journalists'. The old school ceded it, through it away.

Sep. 03 2011 07:35 AM

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